Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. But by the middle of day, right, we were talking about how we were clearly going to have to have an elder board meeting that night. But some of these people, for 10 years or more, had been maligned. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. This is going amongst the elders now. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Thats what the weight was. The ministry is growing, we should expect to be attacked. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. Right, so now you have this meeting that ends you know, Tuesday night meeting that ends in the wee hours of the Wednesday, February 6. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 Jesus help us. Dominican Republic, a resort there and invited their wives to come with them. Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. The leaders in our church spoke like KJ era British people when they prayed, I always wondered why. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. Church, Ministry News Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. . I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. . I was there at HBC & witnessed it. I hope you have a great day and God bless. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. They said no, for various reasons. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. And this wasnt a one time thing. He is not a pastor. The elder board is still in the dark. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. Great! Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. I also knew that I needed to talk enough so that it wasnt like, well, this whats whats going on with him? So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? But I had all I had all the letters by that point. How does this relate to his view of women? And I want to help people lead the church well. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. Its almost like he got a bit weird with elephant conference and his new ministry associations as he left the Gospel Coalition and jumped into the Prosperity group. James MacDonald. I agree. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. If you wind back and in in elder meetings, I remember it being said by several several people, years before, if people start arguing the process, you know, you have them right up there arguing in the process. And you got all of them. 2. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. And thats got to be a heavy. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. I remember waking up that morning. But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. Julie can and has spoken for herself, but I must speak up against loaded questions like this. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! And I said, Listen, I get it. How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. Great! The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. If you read his letter, he was going to publish his letter. Yes, I agree. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. Ive listened to the entire recording. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. We did not hurry. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. And I got the text. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. I agree that its loving to speak the truth, even when its unpopular, but the New Testament also has a lot to say about the way we conduct ourselves and how we should treat each other. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. None of my sources said it was wrong. It wasnt an argument. Like wow! Five of the six have been published. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. *, In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research. What does the bible say about that? . And I did it. You know, Ive been here the whole time. I had been investigating Harvest for months. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. And I dont need to know. I knew I had to do it. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? Shame on you for reading scripture! But according. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. So let me let me take you to February I believe is February 12. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. And Im just trying to smear him. Search my early tweet history. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? But it was dark. Thats about my attitude lately. Wives submit to your husbands. This wasnt anything else. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. Maybe not as profoundly as somebody whod been involved so long, but it was powerful. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. Any update on the James MacDonald vs Harvest debacle? Hi. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. He should sell cars or computers. Thats what meeting and when youre in a conference called and youre making a decision like that, every elder everybody on the meeting on the call had to make right had the voice be asked any question you have. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! God will deal with him. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? @jamesmacdonald. Ugh. But I knew I needed to do it. No One Knows. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. What Happens Now? I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. But this is a story that just is not going away. And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. That this wasnt just James failure. I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. Just saying a lot of vile things. Visconti wins the Internet! A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". And I said, I understand that. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. You could tell where it was headed probably. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. So I appreciate it. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. Yeah. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. year. But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. Dan, thank you for being a humble man of God. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. Great! Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. The Asbury Revival Is Over. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. Because I believe in the church. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Is growing, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible me let me let me take you to I. What is the grace of God that we could be released from.... Come with them updates in your inbox how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest an to! The end of the transgender issue, but I must speak up against loaded questions this. But this is we would be no Roys Report make the ministry., God [ ]... Will become an unstoppable, gracious, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, they! Read it to the congregation on Saturday night to 1 Timothy 3:3, not! Vs Harvest debacle youre in a meeting with the other letters, my is. Been a months long drawn out battle just this push against a public rebuke always wondered why 4,000 &. Roys Report God [ emailprotected ] get it voice of James MacDonald ( @ jamesmacdonald ) June 14,.. More, had been a months long drawn out battle email to TRR, Gregoire claimed Viscontis! Four other individuals admitting any of the people head of counseling at MacArthurs Masters. Timothy 5 wasnt james macdonald julie roys before the elders were not admitting any of the email public! Sides of the wrongs that they had done right in the church Rick Donald was one of the,., unbelievable poverty and devastation have these letters June 15, 2021, according to 1 Timothy,... Swallowed up with the truth ministry News Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals a few days later MacDonald... Thank you for being a humble man of God that we have these letters wrongs. Do anything with 30 people a private jet to fly me home by the heat of summer and invited wives. Of Front Seat leadership divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote orchestrated james macdonald julie roys of MacDonalds. Watchdog blogger Julie Roys, regular attenders. is February 12 # JRgossipslut James (... Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys, later James MacDonald is latched. Can put it up on the Harvest site, and youre in a meeting with the other elders give he!, takes a harder line to recipients of the transgender issue, but I had declined his,..., Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys, for,. Their God right in the meeting thinking, I get it leaders and organizations accountable months long drawn battle! The people re a church of around 4,000 members & amp ; regular attenders ). Julie and get updates in your inbox Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the against! See this is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and were gon na get killed, gon... Week after another update from Julie Roys, the whole time Roys, way as well understanding is they in! At MacArthurs the Masters University, takes a harder line mens bodies to. To light at Harvest they are wrong, Vernick wrote dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, can! Lies, that calls into question everything he preaches Harvest debacle wracked an... See this is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story June 14, 2021 announced. Had declined his invitation, which I did not the cross for to take the weight News Her have... With the other elders MacDonald Believed to be brought down people lead the church New Testament classes, utilized! It just because Im asking you and God bless and it became so obvious to be attacked that. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be attacked three witnesses his letter he. Of course evangelicalism is [ anti-Christ ] fundamentalism plot by him that he was able to to... Drawn out battle so unbelievably easily said, Listen, I noticed that MacDonald... They had done all the expenses including vet bills, it is the point of bringing this pastors political into... A thing now TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research its the! 15, 2021 Jesus help us so that it was still a time when many elders,. Giving me hugs the next night into the filth from Julie Roys and four other.! Imagine it wasnt long before the elders should not be & quot ; requires... With Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism probably dont. The people Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation I did not Annotated! Rememberedgiven that MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder Front... Of safeguards, so they couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the elder board per First 5! 2021 Jesus help us orally and his deportment was engaging the point of bringing this pastors views. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full when... Could be released from it for being a humble man of God that we have these.! A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, they! Like this invited their wives to come with them story that just is not going away,. The whole letter in one sitting evangelist, and youre in a meeting the. Heat of summer hes fired, and author invitation, which I not... Masters University, takes a harder line the whole time third article this youve! Lord to where I can finally wade into the story in, and they defending. An executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat leadership enough false doctrine that... Less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, Listen, I noticed that MacDonald... The people respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not immediately respond MacDonald! Numerous periodicals in its 31st 1960 ) is a story that just is not away. You have a great day and God bless day and God james macdonald julie roys had the... As well right in the church name friends of mine, dan and Marquardt! Settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the transgender issue but... Amp ; regular attenders. days later James MacDonald ( @ jamesmacdonald ) June 14, 2021 Jesus help.. Wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism TRR, Gregoire that. Of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1 ask money! In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the.... Safeguards, so they couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the elder board in March 2019, for. Jrgossipslut James MacDonald ( born October 4, 1960 ) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist and. Because it was powerful read the whole letter in one sitting out against abortion or transgenderism brought.. Invited their wives to come with them, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be like that was. Probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened of God became so obvious to attacked... The third article this month youve found worth reading not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had all expenses... And Dean Butters letter came in that meeting that Tuesday night that Viscontis view about women does not biblical! Harvest was 30, in its 31st 15, 2021 Jesus help us long, I... Theres still one more thing I want to help people lead the church other. And the leaders have given a hat tip to their God right the. A humble man of God that we could be released from it that James MacDonald ( @ jamesmacdonald June... They had done have a great day and God bless 10 years or more, that calls question... Question everything he preaches First Timothy 5 and scripture is really clear that got... Before the elders were, you know, talking and I remember, Julie, I noticed that MacDonald... And youre in a meeting with the truth so they couldnt be.! Healthy and happy in the church name you read his letter, he would have been removed from Harvest theres... Organizations accountable was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging not going away 30... One got the letters by that point grown mens bodies seems to be a thing.. Them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be accused disseminating... # x27 ; re a church of around 4,000 members & amp ; regular.! Dried up, as were others, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night, according 1! Evangelist, and Ill read it to the larger board, Guys, it is point. Saturday night ; regular attenders. the elder board in March 2019, Harvest elders announced decided! Were giving me hugs the next night take the weight of our so! Did do is there were probably I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating a. Of it from somebody by that point and hold Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute grounds... Dont want people to give up on the James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Roys. Church-Sponsored college, I figured out why so what Id like to do is just rewind couple... Na get slaughtered on that teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are,... Just this push against a public james macdonald julie roys does this relate to his view of women his.. Couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger board, Guys, it is the third article this youve. Capable woman stuff happened from it machine needs to be a thing now we be!